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Crowning Teeth to Treat TMJ Disorder

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I have TMJ Disorder that I wear a mouth guard for. While it has improved, I’m still having problems. My dentist is suggesting that this is because I’ve worn my teeth down to nubs. What she wants to do is put crowns on all of my teeth in order to fix my bite. She says it will completely solve my TMJ issues. This seems rather radical to me. Is this even a legitimate treatment?

Walter

Dear Walter,

Woman holding her jaw from TMJ pain

Placing dental crowns on all of your teeth is a legitimate way to treat TMJ disorder. It is designed to get your bite into the right alignment so that your jaw, especially your temporomandibular joint, is also in proper alignment and you are no longer in any pain. This is know as a full-mouth reconstruction. I would say though that this is a highly specialized treatment. You would want someone with advanced training.

Going to dental school is not enough in this case. You want someone with post-doctoral training. Otherwise you could end up in a worse situation than you were in to begin with. It has to be done very carefully, starting with provisional treatment first and making sure everything is properly placed and comfortable before building up the permanent crowns.

I would look for someone with training from one of the following institutions:

  • The Pankey Institute
  • The Dawson Academy
  • The Las Vegas Institute for Advanced Dental Studies
  • Piper Education and Research Center

It’s possible that your current dentist has the needed training. Starting with a mouthguard was spot-on. I like that she didn’t just jump to the most expensive treatment and went with the least invasive first to see what type of results you’d get. She seems to know what she’s doing. You’re probably safe sticking with her. Just make sure that your dentist does the temporary crowns first and you are completely comfortable with the treatment.

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Should She Go Through With This Full-Mouth Reconstruction

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I had been grinding my teeth for years without noticing or having a dentist tell me. I recently moved and my new dentist was very concerned about the condition of my teeth. Some of them in the back were tiny nubs. She asked me some questions and believes I have TMJ Disorder. It made sense as she talked about the symptoms and would explain a lot about things I am going through. She suggested a full-mouth reconstruction. The bottom is done. It was a highly emotional experience for me and one I am not sure I want to go through again for the top arch. I chose a color that was darker than my dentist suggested, but now that it is done, I feel it is still too dark. I also miss the unique defects in my smile that I felt made me…me. These bottom teeth are just oo perfect. Do I have to finish the full mouth reconstruction? My dentist thinks it will do more damage to my bite if I don’t and she thinks the upper teeth being so much smaller and darker than the lower teeth will look odd. She is leaving it up to me and said, she’s given her thoughts and will not pressure me to conform to them. I’m paralyzed with the fear I’ll make the wrong decision. Do you have a recommendation?

Carol

Dear Carol,

I am sorry this has been so difficult for you. Up front, I want to make sure you understand that because I haven’t examined you or seen any of the diagnostics, anything I tell you will be based soley on what you said.

it sounds like the things that concerned you were 1. The color wasn’t what you were hoping for. 2. The teeth were too perfect looking and lost its quirks.

The color would be hard to change unless you had the dentist do them again, but if it is the color you picked you’d have to pay for them again. As for the quirkiness. You can get that easily…as long as you get the right dentist. Expert cosmetic dentists would likely trample over one another for an opportunity to design a smile with some character. Most patients just want the perfect Hollywood smile. Your request would put them in heaven.

While you could leave things as they are I have some concerns. You do not want to leave a full mouth reconstruction half done without a good reason. This is expecially true when you are already dealing with TMJ Disorder. Plus, the ceramics on the bottom teeth will damagae natural tooth structure as they butt up against on another. My suggestion is to complete the reconstruction but do it with a dentist who has the skills to create the look you want. They will need expert cosmetic training as well as advanced restonstructive training. It’s a tall order, but they do exist.

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Dentist Wants to Crown Every Tooth Because My Bite Is Off

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I had braces in my younger years and always thought my bite was fine. I’m now a 40+ year old professional and my dentist said my bite is “off” and he wants to fix it by crowning all of my teeth. I am not too keen on the idea of capping a bunch of healthy teeth. Are there other options?

Adrian

Dear Adrian,

TMJ Diagram of joint

I am very glad you wrote. I’m concerned about your dentist’s diagnosis and treatment recommendation. Did you go in because you were in serious pain or did he just say your bite was off without you asking about it? The thing is, everyone’s bite is off to some extent or another.

A full mouth reconstruction, which is what crowning all of your teeth is called, is a major reconstruction. The only reason to do that is if you were dealing with major functional problems. You didn’t mention that. In fact, you started by saying you thought your bite was fine. A full-mouth reconstruction will cost you upwards of $30,000 or more. Not to mention the danger of your dentist doing it wrong and causing serious problems.

A serious bite problem can lead to TMJ disorder and this is my concern here. You don’t seem to have any reason to need this treatment. Yet, your dentist is suggesting it. It’s quite invasive and takes very advanced training. Going to dental school is not enough to do this properly. I would only allow a dentist with a significant amount of post-doctoral training in TMJ and Occlusion to do this procedure.

Before you step into this, I would suggest getting a second opinion from a dentist with this training. Look for someone who has studied at the Pankey Institute or the Las Vegas Institute of Advanced Dental Studies. Then, if you do need it, you will have a dentist who can do it without completely destroying your bite.

To be honest, I don’t think you are going to need this at all. Let’s say you are developing a TMJ issue. There are much less invasive options before you have to jump to the reconstruction option.

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Full Mouth Reconstruction for TMJ Disorder

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My jaw hurts all the time. Sometimes, I just sip soup because I don’t want to chew. Between that and my constant migraines, I do not feel I am a functioning adult. I spoke to my dentist about it and he said it sounds like I have TMJ Disorder. He’d like to do a full mouth reconstruction. My teeth are healthy, so I am a little hesitant to do this. He said it would mean putting a crown on each of my teeth. If that is the only way to get out of pain, I am willing. I just want to make sure.

Percy

Dear Percy,

Woman holding her jaw from TMJ pain

TMJ Disorder can be quite painful and it does sound like you have quite a few of the symptoms. However, jumping straight to a full mouth reconstruction seems a bit over the top to me. There are less invasive procedures that I would recommend you try first. The exception would be if your case is quite severe and it is obvious that this is the treatment you need.

If that is the case or if you try the less invasive procedures do not work then you want to find the right dentist to do a full mouth reconstruction. This is a very advanced procedure. Very advanced. If it is not done correctly, then you can end up in even a worse situation you are in now. While there is not a TMJ specialty, you do want a TMJ Dentist. What I mean by that is someone with post-doctoral training in treating TMJ Disorder.

Who Is The Best Dentist for a Full-Mouth Reconstruction

This is not a procedure that is adequately taught in dental school. In order to have it done well, you need a dentist who has invested in post-doctoral training in these type of procedural skills.

Some schools to look for a dentist to have received his training in this area are:

  • The Las Vegas Institute of Advanced Dental Studies
  • The Pankey Institute
  • Dawson Academy

The best dentists work hard on their skills. They do not rest on their degree and just go through the motions with what they’ve learned in dental school. You want someone who is consistently working on their skillset.

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A Collapsed Bite

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I wonder if you can advise me. I am very self conscious about my smile. When my mouth is at rest, but not completely closed, there is just a black cavern. You cannot see my teeth at all. My jaw also hurts from years of grinding my teeth, which I just found out recently was an issue. My dentist made a night guard for me to wear at night. When I wear that, my jaw hurts less and it gives the slight appearance of my teeth being visible. This makes me think I need to add something to my teeth to make them “show up”, plus it may help with the jaw pain. I asked my dentist about it and he suggested porcelain veneers. Before I make such a big investment, I want to make sure it is the right choice. Have you seen patients in my situation? If so, what worked for them?

Caroline

Dear Caroline,

woman holding her jaw in pain

I am glad that you wrote. I think I know what has happened here and if it is not done right it can completely mess up your bite and leave you in a lifetime of pain. As for porcelain veneers, while if you see an excellent cosmetic dentist it would help with the appearance related issues, it would not solve the root of your problem or the jaw pain, which is like TMJ Disorder as the result of the grinding.

Based on what you have described, it sounds like your teeth grinding has led to a collapsed bite. I wish a dentist would have intervened sooner and protected you from this. However, that is water under the bridge and you need a solution. When your teeth are that ground down, the only real solution is a full mouth reconstruction. This is done by crowning the ground down teeth in order to get your bite in proper alignment and occlusion. However, this is one of the most advanced procedures in dentistry and has to be done very carefully.

A dentist would have to do this starting with provisionals to make sure everything lines up perfectly. It takes years of post-doctoral study to be able to do this well. Look at Dr. Marion’s bio to get an idea of the type of training a dentist would need to work on your case.

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Full-Mouth Reconstruction Gone Bad

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I wanted to get a smile makeover and cover my six front teeth. My dentist said I would need to open my bite up more for that to work. In order to do that, he’d have to crown all of the teeth, top and bottom. My husband and I thought about this long and hard because we don’t have a ton of money but decided to go ahead with it. The whole thing has been a bit of a disaster. My mouth feels crooked now. The teeth on the right side of my mouth hit together way sooner than the teeth on the left side of my mouth. It’s causing a lot of pain. They look fine but it hurts to eat. Can the right side be ground down some to make them even? Or is there something else I can do?

Maggie

Dear Maggie,

woman holding her jaw in pain

When a dentist crowns all your teeth that is called a full-mouth reconstruction. This is one of the most advanced procedures a dentist can do. It is not taught in dental school. In order for a dentist to know how to do it well, they would need a significant amount of post-doctoral training. When it is done badly, it leads to significant problems, one of which you are experiencing.

He’s thrown off your bite completely. This can lead to not just the pain you are experiencing but can also throw you into a TMJ disorder situation. I don’t think just grinding down the side that is hitting first will solve your problem. First, you don’t know how far you’d have to grind. It could be you’d have to grind down too far. Second, knowing your dentist threw off this issue, there could be other things wrong with this case. What you need is someone with real expertise to look at this and evaluate the best way to fix it. With a dentist who has expertise in reconstructive dentistry on your side, you should be able to get a refund and then get this done properly.

So, how do you find this expert in full-mouth reconstructions? I would look for a dentist who has post-doctoral training in one of the following institutions:

  • Pankey Institute, located in Florida
  • Dawson Center for Advanced Dental Study, located in Florida
  • The Las Vegas Institute for Advanced Dental Studies

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Mouth Collapsing

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It seems that the older I get the less I like my smile. When my mouth is at rest, you can’t see any of my teeth, just empty darkness. Even when I am smiling, I have to force my teeth to show. I don’t know if this is connected, but my jaw hurts all the time, except when I’m wearing my mouthguard, which I got not too long ago when my son told me he noticed I was grinding my teeth. My dentist suggested Lumineers might help, but I wanted to get another opinion before moving forward.

Melanie

Dear Melanie,

woman covering her mouth

I’m glad you wrote. Your dentist is going about this the wrong way. In fact, it is very likely to make things worse. Based on what you’ve described it sounds like your teeth are worn down to the point of being over closed. This can result in serious TMJ Disorder, if it hasn’t already.

Lumineers is a brand of porcelain veneers. This particular brand of veneers is often marketed to inexperienced cosmetic dentists. The fact that he’s even suggesting this as a solution backs up my suspicion that he doesn’t know what he’s doing in this case.

The solution for this is a full-mouth reconstruction. This is a very advanced procedure that has to be done very carefully. It usually involves crowning every tooth. It is beyond the ability of most dentists. Just getting the function of your bite correct is a tall enough order for this however, you will want more than function. You’ll want an attractive smile too.

I want you to look at Dr. Marion’s credentials. This would be the kind of dentist you are looking for when it comes to something like this. Also, if a dentist went to one of the following post-doctoral training centers, they will be qualified as well:

  • The Pankey Institute
  • The Dawson Academy
  • The Las Vegas Institute for Advanced Dental Studies

Do be careful with who does this for you.
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Did My Dentist Damage My Dental Bridge?

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I have a dental bridge, it wasn’t fitting quite right so my dentist asked me to come in and he’d make some adjustments. He did some grinding on the crown. I noticed the next day that it had a spot on it which showed the metal. I went in to see my dentist again and he said it was because I’m a tooth grinder. What I don’t understand is how it can happen in one night. He did put a composite filling on it, but that was gone by the next morning. I don’t think it is my grinding, but I’m not sure if my dentist will ever agree. What do you think? Can this be fixed?

Penny

Dear Penny,

A dental bridge

I’m sorry for what you’re experiencing. I’ve got to tell you I’m a little concerned you need to find a different dentist. It isn’t simply because of the crown for your dental bridge. It’s more about the teeth grinding. Granted, I am extrapolating here, but it sounds like your dentist has known you are a grinder, but he hasn’t provided you with a nightguard. This is a simple mouthpiece you’d wear at night, which is when most grinding takes place. It protects your teeth from the damage done by the teeth grinding.

Believe me, that damage is serious. Eventually, you will wear your teeth down to nubs. When that happens, it will require you to get a full-mouth reconstruction. That means placing a dental crown on every tooth and would cost you between 30 and 60 thousand dollars. That will bring in a lot more money for your dentist than the nightguard. The best dentists stay on top of all your oral health, not just cleanings and restorations. He should be keeping an eye out for gum disease, signs of grinding, and doing oral cancer screenings. I don’t think you’re getting the care you need.

As for the crown. Yes, it is very likely your dentist did that but I doubt he will admit to that because it would mean replacing it at his cost. Instead, he’ll try to pawn it off on you. How would you know how to prove otherwise? I’ll tell you how. You write to me.

Getting this Dental Bridge Replaced

The first thing I want you to do is get a second opinion. Some dentists will even do that for free. It will be easy for a dentist to tell if your dentist’s adjustments were the cause of the damage. If the porcelain on your crown has been ground on by a metal explorer it will leave very distinct marks. If the second opinion dentist tells you those marks are there, you are armed with some backup. From there you have two choices:

  • Get a refund and have another dentist do your dental bridge.
  • Give your dentist a chance to replace it and do it right.

The choice is completely up to you. One thing you’d asked is if this can be repaired. There is a small chance, but it is very involved and not much of a guarantee. To be honest, based on what I’m reading from you, I don’t think your dentist has the skills needed. I’d just get the bridge replaced.

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